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Symbols he had the answer all along? *spoilers*

#1 User is offline   paulroberts20 

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  Posted 11 January 2009 - 11:01 AM

I've just started playing Exile again, just for funsies, and I realised something odd..

When you finally get inside the tusk and see savvy link out,
go over cue the holo thingy talk to you.

Sav. said he'd changed the three symbols to get to the linking book,
but at the end of the game you use those symbols to open one of the shields

so he could have opened the shields hisself, it he'd realised..
anyone with me so far?

the other point is, what were the symbols originally?
they wouldn't have worked in the shield thingy so isnt it a
huge coincidence that savvy happened to pick those three symbols?

there, i'm done.
please comment if you have any idea what i'm trying to get at
i dont know if ive been brilliantly clear..
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 01:48 PM

You actually use different symbols to open the shields, ones you get from translating important points from Atrus' journal. These were probably the original symbols that would be used for the hologram/Narayan book. Saavedro vandalized the inscriptions of these symbols and replaced them with other Narayani phrases (does anyone know what Saavedro's symbol's said? They might mean something).

Saavedro did know the original symbols, though, and was able to open the inner shield. However, he was unable to find the last symbol (perhaps he had vandalized over it without noticing it, or the brother's had destroyed it in the civil war) and so could not do anything practical with his knowledge.
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#3 User is offline   Menelmacar 

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 01:41 PM

The final symbol - "balanced systems stimulate civilization" - was never recorded anywhere in symbol form and was supposed to be deduced from the wall tapestries after Sirrus and Achenar made the connection between the symbols and the maxims. Since Saavedro never knew the fourth maxim, he was never able to open the outer shield.

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#4 User is offline   Almaron 

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 02:41 AM

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(does anyone know what Saavedro's symbol's said? They might mean something).


The symbols are the same, he just destroyed two of the words on each one. (I had a list somewhere where I translated these, but I can't find it. I'll post it when I do.) He even mentions in his journal having trouble damaging the stones at Voltaic.

The list of poems after being damaged are:
Voltaic: (Missing Words) Future Motion
Edanna: Nature Encourages (Missing Words)
Amateria: (Bottom Half of Dynamic) Forces (Missing Words) Change

By the way, does Saavedro ever mention figuring out how to get the inner shield down?

EDIT: Just replayed the game and checked the symbols, and updated the list.

The damage to each is:
Voltaic: Stones knocked out of place with Amaterian Soil
Edanna: Plant Vine ripped off
Amateria: Columns defaced/missing
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Posted 07 July 2009 - 01:23 PM

Also, one symbol is not viewable in the game until you
Click to reveal hidden content
enter it into the second code panel in Narayan
- the symbol for Narayan. This one is findable in Atrus' journal only, and only as words. That is, you need to read his journal to find it. That symbol is 'Balanced Systems Stimulate civilization'. The reason Saavedro couldn't open the outer shield by himself was that he had the three symbols from the other ages, but not the one for Narayan, so he was stuck.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:31 PM

More practically: With how long he had been exiled don't you think he would have tried to open the shield? He could have just randomly guessed until he found the correct symbols. What else did he have to do?! In the game he acts completely surprised at the fact that it could be opened implying that he did not even try, he found out how to change incredibly complex puzzles but not how to input some symbols? This makes no logical sense! :arianna:
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