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#76 User is offline   realXCV 

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 03:47 PM

View PostJajeblade, on Mar 17 2010, 03:52 PM, said:

Now we're getting somewhere I feel a mathematic puzzle coming :P

Not really.

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You used a 24Bit true-color (8bit/channel) image so that are 16,777,216 different colors possibility's so you used 0,0028% of all the color's possible. Each of the color's you used had to occur an average of 8,77 times. Wich means...

That most of the color's apear less then 28 times as the average is 8,77 we can tell that some of the color's (not much) spike a lot because for every pixel (for example) that occurs 59 times you would need 7 color's to only occur once to get back on the average colors of 8,77.

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If I were you, I would read the last clue again and again until I figure out what it means.
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 05:56 PM

View PostrealXCV, on Mar 17 2010, 10:47 PM, said:

View PostJajeblade, on Mar 17 2010, 03:52 PM, said:

Now we're getting somewhere I feel a mathematic puzzle coming :P

Not really.

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You used a 24Bit true-color (8bit/channel) image so that are 16,777,216 different colors possibility's so you used 0,0028% of all the color's possible. Each of the color's you used had to occur an average of 8,77 times. Wich means...

That most of the color's apear less then 28 times as the average is 8,77 we can tell that some of the color's (not much) spike a lot because for every pixel (for example) that occurs 59 times you would need 7 color's to only occur once to get back on the average colors of 8,77.

:blinky:

If I were you, I would read the last clue again and again until I figure out what it means.


I was afraid you're going to say that...

I'll give it another try tomorrow.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 05:52 PM

/bump
any updates?
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 06:18 PM

I thought you were not interested.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 04:11 PM

when did i say that?
ive never played exile, but dont want an easter egg to fall through the cracks
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 04:19 PM

It would be nice to perhaps just give it to us easily in plaintext. I can't speak for everyone, but I feel like it would be better to give the community access to the egg so we can finally see it, rather than letting it languish in obscurity because the community composition has changed and the problem-solvers have mostly dropped away.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 05:24 PM

OBJECTION!
(that's the ace attorney fan in me)
give a few more hints and a deadline.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 08:40 PM

View PostAaronAKAAtrus, on Sep 13 2010, 06:11 PM, said:

when did i say that?

On August 6 2010 in a PM.

View PostCapella, on Sep 13 2010, 06:19 PM, said:

It would be nice to perhaps just give it to us easily in plaintext. I can't speak for everyone, but I feel like it would be better to give the community access to the egg so we can finally see it, rather than letting it languish in obscurity because the community composition has changed and the problem-solvers have mostly dropped away.

It's time to turn the remaining ones into problem-solvers.

View PostAaronAKAAtrus, on Sep 13 2010, 07:24 PM, said:

OBJECTION!
(that's the ace attorney fan in me)
give a few more hints and a deadline.

Hint 1: Try putting the previous hints in order.
Hint 2: Hints are everywhere in this thread.
Hint 3: (A variation of a known hint)
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There are too many different colors


Deadline: Depending on if I see that people really tried to solve it or are just waiting for the solution, I will post the answer shortly after the release of the next version of Myst III - music player.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 08:54 PM

Some of the hints (needs updating though for later hints), if it helps our puzzlers.

Have we tried greyscaling it yet? "The colors are mostly random", "Something like [color swapping] but maybe not the way you think.", and something about Jajeblade's post being "You were right on one thing."?

Greyscale looks sort of interesting (not in the "hey look, an image" way, but it doesn't just look like the scramble made more scrambled), but with my diminutive ingenuity for cracking codes past that and my sleepiness at this point, I'm not sure what to do next to see if it means anything.

Some day, one of these forum shared puzzles things is not going to be a code >.<
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 10:31 AM

Are you trying to make it harder than it is?
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 02:14 PM

View PostrealXCV, on Sep 14 2010, 09:31 AM, said:

Are you trying to make it harder than it looks to me, having the answer and knowing which out of many steps I used are so obviously used?

Indeed.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:15 PM

actually i foud a non code puzzle on mystonline forums, as i solved it!!!
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:29 PM

Care to elaborate?
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:54 PM

um well actually i just found the soulution
http://mystonline.co...pic.php?t=22174
Im Pokemon. AaronAKAAtrusAKAAshKetchum. :P
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 02:24 AM

Ok. I've only just found this. Here are my thoughts.

I think we have to load up the picture and use the graphics programs wand to change pixel colours. Some pixels are the correct colours and don't need changing, several others have add changed so we need to put those back to thier original colour which will be the same as one of it's neighbours. Question is how do you choose?

If I am on the right line here is how I would approach it. If the image is to remain 64 x 64, but with larger pixels made up of smaller ones, then we need to effectively reduce it to 32 x 32. The top left 4 pixels are to become same colour. Try keeping the top left the same and change the others to that. And so on. Someone mentione that the words bottom left were within the file info, maybe it is them bottom left of the 4 which is the colour to use.

Worth doing?
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:40 AM

View PostTopher Bear, on Sep 16 2010, 01:24 AM, said:

Ok. I've only just found this. Here are my thoughts.

I think we have to load up the picture and use the graphics programs wand to change pixel colours. Some pixels are the correct colours and don't need changing, several others have add changed so we need to put those back to thier original colour which will be the same as one of it's neighbours. Question is how do you choose?

If I am on the right line here is how I would approach it. If the image is to remain 64 x 64, but with larger pixels made up of smaller ones, then we need to effectively reduce it to 32 x 32. The top left 4 pixels are to become same colour. Try keeping the top left the same and change the others to that. And so on. Someone mentione that the words bottom left were within the file info, maybe it is them bottom left of the 4 which is the colour to use.

Worth doing?

That sounds reasonable, but does it fit with the clue "The size of the pixels must not change."?
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 12:48 PM

I agree. No resizing allowed.




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Posted 16 September 2010 - 03:11 PM

View PostrealXCV, on Sep 16 2010, 06:48 PM, said:

I agree. No resizing allowed.




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But thats not resizing the pixels. It is the same number and size of pixel just that some will be the same colour as thier neighbours
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 06:07 PM

View PostTopher Bear, on Sep 16 2010, 02:11 PM, said:

View PostrealXCV, on Sep 16 2010, 06:48 PM, said:

I agree. No resizing allowed.




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But thats not resizing the pixels. It is the same number and size of pixel just that some will be the same colour as thier neighbours

Well, making jumbo pixels could be like resizing it, effectively... of course, that could just mean not to resize it, in any way, after such jumbo pixels are made (2?). I'm not ruling out realXCV implying cryptically just in the technicality, throwing us off the scent of the main point.
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:04 PM

What will you do with your jumbo pixels?
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:20 PM

Sell them at a higher price.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 05:30 PM

Myst III - music player should be released soon so here's your last chance to try solving the puzzle by yourselves.

Ultimate hint:
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The first part of Topher Bear's thoughts is mostly right

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 04:35 PM

View PostrealXCV, on Nov 8 2010, 11:30 PM, said:

Myst III - music player should be released soon so here's your last chance to try solving the puzzle by yourselves.

Ultimate hint:
Click to reveal hidden content
The first part of Topher Bear's thoughts is mostly right


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Feeling Smug!


:D
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 10:52 PM

Not entirely sure about any of the current leads, but if you ask me it looks like an image distorted by noise. Perhaps that is all it is and the image contains information as to how to remove the noise? Perhaps that's too simple? I don't know honestly.

EDIT: Here's another thought. If there are too many colours, GIMP has some features like dissolve where it deletes pixels. I honestly don't think that's helpful, but if you have no other options I think it might be worth a look. At worst it will only waste another hour or so of your time.

EDIT: Oh, sorry about the bump, I didn't notice the age of the thing...
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