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#1 User is offline   Shinkansen 

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:29 PM

It's another Shinkansen grand strategy insanity lets play!

Here's the horribly flashy intro video, wherein I try to explain the way the game works.

Victoria II is a 19th Century economics/politics grand strategy simulator, from the same people who made Hearts of Iron III and Crusader Kings

Positions:

First Minister: Jesthar
Finance Minister: TopherBear
Foreign Minister: Kind of preemptively commandeered by Gloa.
Economics Minister: Lostthyme
Head of Intelligence: Allatwan
Head of the Secret Police: Aaron
War Minister: Capella
Education Minister: Nyrunia
Secretary: ME!

We're a monarchy, so the actual leader will be the good King Randomeel, and the Prime Minster will be some Myst character, depending on what political party is in power.

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Conservative: Guild Faction
Liberal: Cyanist Party
Reactionary: Sirrus Fangirl Faction
Anarcho-Liberal: Black Moiety
Socialist: Serenian Party
Communist: Bahro FAction
Fascist: UBISOFT

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:42 PM

Ooh, I want to be the Head of Intelligence! I guess I'll be part of the Cyanist Party, if you're letting us pick our parties.

Also, thanks for putting it in the right forum :arianna:

EDIT: HEY I missed the War Ministry! I wanted to be Intelligence because I didn't see War because I can't read, can I change my vote to War? Then Allatwan could be the Intelligence because Moiety are all stealthy and stuff. Maybe?
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:13 PM

Aw... Anarchy = Black Moiety? My favourite parties in one? :rotflol: WANT IT!
Although I have no idea what to be... I shouldn't be finance minister though, 'coz I'm cheap XD And war... for the Moiety?
I dunno... you pick! :arianna:
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:58 PM

ooh, me wants secret police! cyanist/bahro!
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:59 PM

ooh, can I play.

I'll put me hat in the ring for Economics minister or Finance minister (whats the difference?) My relevant resume, I predicted the credit crunch! :rotflol:

I watched the video...but still have no idea how this works? how does MC play victoria II? how do we make decisions?

A million and one other questions like this can be found @ dead-end neuron, inside my head!

TB :arianna:
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:13 PM

View PostShinkansen, on Oct 19 2010, 01:29 PM, said:

It's another Shinkansen grand strategy insanity lets play!

Shinkanseeeeeeeen! :arianna: :rotflol: :bored: Yay, Shinkansen lets plays!

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Victoria II is a 19th Century economics/politics/war/getting slaughtered grand strategy simulator

Fixed.

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Foreign Minister- Kind of preemptively commandeered by Gloa.

Whee! Now I can create diplomatic incidents!

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I watched the video...but still have no idea how this works? how does MC play victoria II? how do we make decisions?

Shinkansen mostly makes the decisions, with us as characters, although we can bug him to do crazy things and tank the nation if we're persistent enough.

Invade California! Or ally with them, I can never decide. We need some path to the sea, though, so Sonora or California look like nice targets (Texas too, if it wasn't for its Great Power status). Then we can spring from there to invade Hawaii or Bolivia or something cool and Pacific like that.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:14 PM

View PostTopher Bear, on Oct 19 2010, 03:59 PM, said:

whats the difference?

Finance Minister is in charge of the treasury, and Economics is responsible for factory development

View PostTopher Bear, on Oct 19 2010, 03:59 PM, said:

how does MC play victoria II?

The same way we played Civilization, Hearts of Iron, SPORE, and The Sims, of course. :rotflol:
Though, I'm perfectly open to advice/suggestions.
EDIT: aaander'ed by Gloa. :arianna:

Also, here's the flag I said looked like a 'lighthowse'.

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The way the game works, the flag will change to reflect the form of government.
So, if communists take over, we get the communist flag, if the King is overthrown by liberals, we get the democracy flag, if some random dude declares himself president-for-life, we get the republic flag, and if those annoying fascists take over, we get the fascist flag.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:49 PM

I'll take whatever's left!

Your video narrations always crack me up.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:07 PM

I feel like a dirty nazi gestapo. :arianna:
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:44 PM

Education Minister please! This ought to be interesting...
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 01:54 AM

View PostAaronAKAAtrus, on Oct 19 2010, 06:07 PM, said:

I feel like a dirty nazi gestapo. :arianna:

:rotflol:
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:26 AM

By lack of any places left I'll be the political leader of the Serenian party!

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 01:05 PM

Ok. I'll ask for finance minister. Wanna tax everyone, till i'm rich, rich I tell you!
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:19 PM

Awww, no positions left for me?
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:02 PM

View PostShinkansen, on Oct 19 2010, 03:14 PM, said:

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Let's not become a republic, 'k?


View PostJesthar, on Oct 20 2010, 02:19 PM, said:

Awww, no positions left for me?

Maybe you can be a province governor, or an admiral to the fleet (once we steal a sea border for one).
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:09 PM

what IS the republic flag?

wait- this is the WRong drc logo- i think you want this one- Posted Image
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 06:08 PM

View PostAaronAKAAtrus, on Oct 20 2010, 06:09 PM, said:

what IS the republic flag?


View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 06:02 PM, said:

Let's not become a republic, 'k?

Aww...no love the poor little republic flag?

View PostAaronAKAAtrus, on Oct 20 2010, 06:09 PM, said:

wait- this is the WRong drc logo- i think you want this one

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View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 06:02 PM, said:

Maybe you can be a province governor, or an admiral to the fleet (once we steal a sea border for one).

Or she could be First Minister?
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 06:26 PM

you didnt answer my question. MY ANGER MANIFESTS ITSELF WHEN MY WALRUS IS MISTAKEN! (d'ni day of dancing)
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 06:48 PM

View PostShinkansen, on Oct 20 2010, 05:08 PM, said:

View PostAaronAKAAtrus, on Oct 20 2010, 06:09 PM, said:

what IS the republic flag?


View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 06:02 PM, said:

Let's not become a republic, 'k?

Aww...no love the poor little republic flag?

Not particularly. The black on striped colors looks odd (maybe enlarge the middle strip and shrink the arch logo? or make it white, perhaps [don't know if that would be better or worse]?). Also, not to be nitpicky and all, but are all the arches on the flags stuck in a fatter triangle than the logo in your post, which isn't equilateral?

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View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 06:02 PM, said:

Maybe you can be a province governor, or an admiral to the fleet (once we steal a sea border for one).

Or she could be First Minister?

First Minister of Invading Sonora and/or California (navaaaal accessss)?
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 06:51 PM

Chapter One
Liberals! Cholera! Fun for the Whole Family!
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Jesthar: Glarp!

Lostthyme: Glarp?

Jesthar: How else am I supposed to start the meetings?

Allatwan: You could bang two rocks together!

Gloa: Please. We're a civilised nation. We sacrificed our rock-banging-together rights so that we could build factories.

Luna: Couldn't you ring a bell.

Jesthar: Hey, that's a good idea!

TopherBear: Who're you?

Luna: Head of the Serenian Party.

Jesthar: The what?

Luna: The Serenian Party.

Gloa: No, you're not supposed to be here. Socialists don't exist until 1848.

Luna: I'm here, aren't I?

Gloa: No, you're not. You're just a figment of our imaginations. Or, you are one until 1848.

Luna: But I'm here.

Gloa: No.

Luna: I tell you, I'm here.

Gloa: Fine, I'll go get the Prime Minister.

Jesthar: Me!

Gloa: No, the Prime Minister, not the First Minister.

Jesthar: Aren't they the same thing?

Lostthyme: She's right, you know.

*Gloa walks over to the door*

Gloa: Oi! Prime Minister!

Allatwan: Oi?

*Ominous music is heard. Veovis enters, Sinkansen following behind, holding a phonograph*

Veovis: Allright, everyone, calm down! Your Prime Minister is amongst you, once again.

Nyrunia: I dislike you already.

Veovis: SILENCE!

Nyrunia: *eep*

Veovis: Allright, Foreign Minister Gloa, your report?

Gloa: What about our growing Socialist problem?

Vevois: If there is a problem with the dissolute malcontents, our secret police shall handle the problem most efficiently.

Aaron: YES YOUR MAJESTY I SHALL EXERCISE ABSOLUTE RESTRAINT WHEN DEALING WITH THOSE WHO HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS SO WE HAVE A FREE AND EQUAL SOCIETY.

Veovis: No, we don't want that.

Jesthar: We don't want freedom and equality?

Veovis: *laughs* No, of course not.

Luna: I agree with Nyrunia; I dislike you already.

Veovis: What have we here? A SOCIALIST? BEGONE, FOUL ABERRATION OF UNHISTORICITY!

*Luna vanishes in a puff of logic*

Aaron: WOW I CAN'T WAIT TO DO THAT TO EVIL COMMIE-NAZI PAGANS.

Lostthyme: Why are you talking in all-caps?

Aaron: HOW CAN ONE TALK IN ALL CAPS, EH? TALKING INVOLVES SOUNDS AND VARIOUS SYLLABLES, NOT TYPEFACE AND FONT.

Lostthyme: No, it's-

Veovis: No time for superfluous discussion, it's time for briefing thingy! Foreign Minister!

Gloa: Erm...Mexico got it's just desserts.

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Veovis: Not interesting. Next!

Gloa: Cholera!

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Veovis: Boooaaarrrhhhing! Next!

Gloa: Erm...liberals!

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Veovis: NOT INTERESTING!

Gloa: OH FOR THE LOVE OF-

Lostthyme: Actually, it is interesting.

Gloa: Really?

Allatwan: Notice how the countries that had the liberals didn't get cholera?

Veovis: So what? Liberals prevent cholera. BORING!

Senkansen: What is interesting is that Capella isn't here.

Veovis: Oh, goody! It talks!

Simkaksem: Ergh...

Jesthar: Hey, where is Capella, anyway?

*Capella enters, covered in mud and dust*

Capella: The victorious warrior has returned!

TopherBear: Victorious? What, did you get into a fight with a bear or something?

Capella: Oh ha ha ha ha...no, we annexed Sonora!

Allatwan: When?

Capella: Just now...

Aaron: SONORA WHAT IS THAT HOW DOES IT AFFECT US WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW ABOUT THIS?

Capella: We have a coastline now.

Aaron: YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION MY ANGER MANIFESTS ITSELF WHEN MY WALRUS IS MISTAKEN!

Capella: :arianna:

Gloa: I did get some dispatches...

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Gloa: ...but they're wasn't any fighting reported, so I assumed we were just moving in or something...

Capella: Well, there wasn't any fighting...Sonora didn't have an army.

Veovis: BORING!

Capella: Who's this jerk?

Jesthar: The Prime Minister.

Capella: ...oh...

Gloa: Speaking of which, there's this superhero called 'Preacher Man' flying around.

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Chorus: Preacher Man! Preacher Man! Does whatever a Preacher Man does!

Veovis: What in Kerath's name was that?!

Gloa: Our chorus!

Veovis: NO MAKE IT STOP! AAAGHHH!!!

*Veovis exits*

Jesthar: Well...

TopherBear: Wait, we were at war?

Allatwan: Yup.

TopherBear: Well, that explains why we needed to take out so many loans!

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Sejkanmen: Why do you keep borrowing from countries I can't pronounce?

Aaron: HEY, IT DOES TALK.

Saljamer: Stop it!

Nyrunia: Yeah, guys, don't pick on...whoever this guy is...

Sulman: ...and stop spelling my name wrong!

Jesthar: So, anything else interesting?

Gloa: The countries with the two coolest flags are having diplomatic problems.

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Sylvester: Yay, Skaggam!

Lostthyme: It's SEE-kim. I looked it up.

Suleiman: I don't care. Besides, it takes you over a year to build a factory!

Lostthyme: Hey, I don't have enough workers!

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Aaron: I SAY SEVENTEEN IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MAKE THEM WORK OVERTIME.

Lostthyme: Then we'll have rebels or something.

Nyrunia: We can shoot at them with our muzzle-loading rifles!

Allatwan: Won't that hurt?

Nyrunia: Yes.

Zachary: ...and stop spelling my name wrong!

And so begins the horrid tale of cholera, liberals, and slow-building concrete factories...
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 07:09 PM

View PostPangolinsen, on Oct 20 2010, 05:51 PM, said:

*Capella enters, covered in mud and dust*

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Gloa: ...but they're wasn't any fighting reported, so I assumed we were just moving in or something...

Capella: Well, there wasn't any fighting...Sonora didn't have an army.

So in occupying the armyless provinces, Capella rolled around in the mud or something?

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TopherBear: Well, that explains why we needed to take out so many loans!

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Sejkanmen: Why do you keep borrowing from countries I can't pronounce?

At least it's borrowing remarkably evenly from each country. It makes a lovely pie chart of future financial ruin.

'shin'Ka'a'nzen' said:

And so begins the horrid tale of cholera, liberals, and slow-building concrete nara factories...

Fixed.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 07:48 PM, said:

Not particularly. The black on striped colors looks odd (maybe enlarge the middle strip and shrink the arch logo? or make it white, perhaps [don't know if that would be better or worse]?). Also, not to be nitpicky and all, but are all the arches on the flags stuck in a fatter triangle than the logo in your post, which isn't equilateral?

Ok, I'm going to keep the republic flag just to spite you all. :arianna:

View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 07:48 PM, said:

but are all the arches on the flags stuck in a fatter triangle than the logo in your post, which isn't equilateral?

Umm...different versions of the DRC logo?

View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 20 2010, 08:09 PM, said:

So in occupying the armyless provinces, Capella rolled around in the mud or something?

Or tripped...
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:42 AM

View PostGehn, lord of ages, on Oct 21 2010, 01:09 AM, said:

View PostPangolinsen, on Oct 20 2010, 05:51 PM, said:

*Capella enters, covered in mud and dust*

...


Gloa: ...but they're wasn't any fighting reported, so I assumed we were just moving in or something...

Capella: Well, there wasn't any fighting...Sonora didn't have an army.

So in occupying the armyless provinces, Capella rolled around in the mud or something?

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TopherBear: Well, that explains why we needed to take out so many loans!

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Sejkanmen: Why do you keep borrowing from countries I can't pronounce?

At least it's borrowing remarkably evenly from each country. It makes a lovely pie chart of future financial ruin.

'shin'Ka'a'nzen' said:

And so begins the horrid tale of cholera, liberals, and slow-building concrete nara factories...

Fixed.

Not financial ruin. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket. We have a greater chance of not having to pay off all loans as the other countries get taken over.

But, it does mean we are a target ourselves, as others see it as a way to deprive many of thier enemies of cash! Oh and lots of enemies when we can't say back.

Tell you what, lets put up taxes and then move to Sonora, and lounge on the beach, all on government expenses of course!
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:18 AM

View PostShinkansen, on Oct 20 2010, 06:51 PM, said:

And so begins the horrid tale of cholera, liberals, and slow-building concrete factories...

:arianna: Pure awesomeness, once again. Hats down, Shinkansen!
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:20 AM

Chapter Two
Liberals! Warfare! Concrete! Debt! Switzerland!
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Aaron: OMGWTFBBQLOLOLLIBERALS ARE ANGERING MY WALRUS!

Jesthar: Walrus?

Aaron: AND THE EGGMAN ARRRGH!

新幹線: Coo-coo ca choo?

Gloa: No.

新幹線: :rotflol:

Lostthyme: Would it be a bad time to mention we finished our concrete factory.

Gloa: Don't you mean Nara?

Lostthyme: No, it's definitely concrete. They told me they it's concrete.

Gloa: Who told you?

Lostthyme: The 174 craftsmen.

Aaron: OH NO THEY'RE SPREADING THEIR DEADLY CRAFTSMEN DISEASES JUST LIKE THE CARTHAGINIANS DID!

TopherBear: Wait, if the factory is finished and building concrete-

Gloa: Nara.

TopherBear: -then why are we still borrowing money?

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Capella: Because we're building forts and naval bases and stuff and we increased the military budget because our soldiers kept deserting?

TopherBear: Nah...it must be something else, our military isn't big enough to merit that much of a loan...

Allatwan: Hmm...

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新幹線: Why are you all looking at me.

Aaron: LOVER REQUIRE MONEY MONEY EQUALS POWER POWER EQUALS DOUGHNUT.

Nyrunia: And doughnut equals lover.

新幹線: I don't even like doughnuts!

Gloa: But you wear pants.

新幹線: No I don't!

Everyone Else: :arianna:

新幹線: ...they're called trousers...

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LATER!!!


新幹線: Messages for you, Gloag.

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Gloa: WAAGH! What the-!

Jesthar: What is all that?

Gloa: It is war.

Capella: With who?

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Lostthyme: Heh-heh. Lippish.

新幹線: Don't make fun of Lippe-Detmold! They're weak and powerless and they have no friends.

Veovis: Just like you.

新幹線: :bored:

Gloa: Wait, when did you get here?

Veovis: Magic.

Allatwan: lol whut?

Veovis: So, this new Nara factory. Where did you get the workers?

Lostthyme: Erm...we 'encouraged' Craftsmen in New Mexico.

Veovis: Meaning...?

Lostthyme: We kidnapped farmers and gave them factory clothes.

Luna: That's horrible! Just for that, I'm going to rearrange the furniture in the Senate!

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Veovis: NO! MY SENATE!!!

新幹線: Another message for you, Gloarg.

Gloa: From where are you getting these messages?

新幹線: The ether.

Jesthar: What?

Gloa: NO! NO! NO NO NO! No no no no no no no no no no no no no....

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Gloa: SWITZERLAND!!!

Aaron: WHERE?

Gloa: IN THE MEDITERRANEAN, WHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG!!!


CLIFFHANGER!!!
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