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Learning to Fly A'reandal's thread wasn't very helpful..

#1 User is offline   I'rish Minstrel 

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Posted 06 July 2003 - 07:36 PM

I've seen A'reandal's thread on Flying in realMYST. However, it specifically said it wasn't for people who didn't know how to fly, so I was turned off it immediately. I don't know how to fly, and would really appreciate it if anybody could explain it to me. I already have a slight idea:

LinguistApprentice, on Oct 22 2002, 07:30 PM, said:

Instead of extracting, I just downloaded the ini files from lonelyto25.com and placed them accordingly. Me is lazy.

I've seen lon's site and the game init, but couldn't get it to work. If someone would explain how to download from lon's site it would be helpful.
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Posted 06 July 2003 - 09:31 PM

The files by lonely are corrupted. You have to find files by marck, they're the ones that work.
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Posted 06 July 2003 - 11:36 PM

Here is Marck's page I'rish Minstrel.

A simple search or asking nicely works wonders.

And maybe it's time to pin a thread on learning to fly. I'll do that soon.
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Posted 07 July 2003 - 10:41 AM

Thanks a lot A'reandal. I hope that subtitle wasn't too rude. I'm about to test out Marck's flymode, so hopefully I'll be able to fly. :evil:
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Posted 07 July 2003 - 03:12 PM

"The trick to flying is to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted 15 July 2003 - 07:06 AM

I'rish Minstrel, did you learn to fly?

Just wondering.

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Posted 27 July 2003 - 01:42 PM

I used Marck's game_init file, and I did fly around MYST Island. I did have a problem though: No matter what direction I looked, I continued to float higher and higher above the island. Looking up just made me continue to float. Marck said it would make me go down. :biggrin:
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Posted 27 July 2003 - 03:34 PM

The rate of your ascend depends on the value you choose for the gravity parameter in game_init.dat. It also depends on your actual hardware, so you have to try various values in order to find one that serves your particular equipment.

Furthermore, it is good practice to save your current game as soon as you reach the desired height, exit the game, and change the RealTimeMin value in WIN_INIT.DAT from 4 to 100. If you then load the saved game, you will stay at the same height and will be free to move around on that level.

Perhaps you should read the Howto once more, especially the Background section.
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Posted 24 August 2003 - 11:36 AM

I changed the setting from 4 to 100, but still nothing. I tried in D'ni and Myst.
What's wrong? and what's RealTimeMin for, anyway?
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Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:22 PM

Like PlantPerson, I've never found that just changing the RealTimeMin setting keeps me level. So I always take the following steps:

1) Change the gravity setting to float upward to your desired level.
2) Save game and exit.
3) Change gravity setting to 90, which keeps me at the chosen level.

I've created a series of batch files that do all this, so it's not too much of a hassle.
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Posted 24 August 2003 - 09:42 PM

Zardoz, on Aug 24 2003, 12:21 PM, said:

I've created a series of batch files that do all this, so it's not too much of a hassle.

Yes, I've seen those while peeking at your laptop way back at Mysterium 03.

Were those hard to make?
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Posted 24 August 2003 - 09:51 PM

Bastiko Pradhana, on Aug 24 2003, 08:41 PM, said:

Zardoz, on Aug 24 2003, 12:21 PM, said:

I've created a series of batch files that do all this, so it's not too much of a hassle.

Yes, I've seen those while peeking at your laptop way back at Mysterium 03.

Were those hard to make?

Not at all. For example, here's what I do for going up. I have a file named up.bat that I keep in the realMyst init directory (with a shortcut on my desktop), with the following commands:

del game_init.dat
copy up.dat game_init.dat
del win_init.dat
copy win100.dat win_init.dat

The file up.dat is just the normal game_init.dat file but it has a low gravity setting, so I float upward, and the win100.dat is just the win_init.dat file but has a RealTimeMin setting of 100.

Once I get to the right height, I then use another file called Normal Gravity.bat with the following commands:

del game_init.dat
copy normal.dat game_init.dat
del win_init.dat
copy normal2.dat win_init.dat

The normal.dat and normal2.dat files are again just the game_init.dat and win_init.dat file, respectively, but reset things to gravity=90 and RealTimeMin=4.

I'm certain someone else had this idea first, I just can't remember who.
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Posted 25 August 2003 - 05:15 AM

My problem is, when I changed the the RealTimeMin setting, nothing changed. NOTHING. The game performed the same as usual. :D
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Posted 25 August 2003 - 04:30 PM

PlantPerson, on Aug 25 2003, 07:14 AM, said:

My problem is, when I changed the the RealTimeMin setting, nothing changed. NOTHING. The game performed the same as usual. :D

RealTimeMin isn't the whole trick to flying, though it should have made you move considerably faster. To fly, change RealTimeMin to 100, save the file. Cut and paste the game_init.dat from Marck's page into notepad, and save the file as "game_init.dat." Make sure you put it in the same folder as win_init.dat. Load up the game and float away.
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Posted 25 August 2003 - 06:59 PM

PlantPerson, on Aug 25 2003, 06:14 AM, said:

My problem is, when I changed the the RealTimeMin setting, nothing changed. NOTHING.

Changing RealTimeMin from 4 to 100 keeps you at the same level. If you change that before you fly for the first time you may not leave the ground. Change the Gravity setting first, but remember that different computers sometimes need different Gravity settings.

Marck, on Jul 27 2003, 04:33 PM ..mentioned earlier in this thread.., said:

The rate of your ascend depends on the value you choose for the gravity parameter in game_init.dat. It also depends on your actual hardware, so you have to try various values in order to find one that serves your particular equipment.


Note that some computers need different Gravity settings.

You need to change the Gravity setting from the default of -90 to something higher. Once you find a good setting that makes you float up slowly and controllably, then fly to a level you like and escape to the menu. Next, save and quit the game, change RealTimMin to 100, reload the saved game, and you should stay at that same level.



After that, you can try playing with the gravity focal points I described in this thread.

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  Posted 25 August 2003 - 11:02 PM

If you don't like dealing with rising, saving, quitting, editing the files, and restarting (I know I don't have the patience), you can set your gravity to 90 (or whatever it takes for you to stay level) and open any game. Then get yourself to some high-up point (for example, the gears on Myst Island) and when you walk away, you'll stay at that same level rather than moving back down like you normally would.

This is also a good way to get progressively higher -- rise up ten feet, explore a bit, rise up ten more feet, enjoy the view, rise up ten more feet, feel very tall and powerful. :D
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Posted 13 October 2003 - 01:37 PM

*knows this thread is 2 months old*

But I'm not able to fly in rM! No matter what direction i look in, I can't go down OR up!
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Posted 13 October 2003 - 06:07 PM

Linkbookmaster, on Oct 13 2003, 02:36 PM, said:

*knows this thread is 2 months old*

But I'm not able to fly in rM! No matter what direction i look in, I can't go down OR up!

Can you give some detials of what you did? What files did you add and modify?

Without specifics, we have no idea how to help.

Did you read this thread in its entirety?

:smile:

EDIT: Never mind posting here. I saw your new thread here.
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 08:03 PM

My default value was 4, not -90. I set it to 100, and nothing. I'll try setting it higher.
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Posted 09 November 2003 - 03:08 AM

Mispeled, on Nov 9 2003, 03:02 AM, said:

My default value was 4, not -90.  I set it to 100, and nothing.

Are you sure that you are not confusing the RealTimeMin setting (default value 4) in file win_init.dat with the Gravity setting (default value -90) in file game_init.dat?
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Posted 09 November 2003 - 09:00 AM

I looked in the file, my choices are..
RealTimeMin (4)
NewMouseDownTime (.01)
MouseCtrlMaxPitch (110)
SetMouseCtrlLongStillTime (5)
in win_init.dat.

I didn't see any file named game_init.dat. :D
Can you only fly with the PC version? :eek:
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Posted 09 November 2003 - 09:36 AM

Mispeled, on Nov 9 2003, 03:59 PM, said:

Can you only fly with the PC version? :eek:

All the basic information you need to fly in realMyst (on Windows and MacOS) is available in this thread. Read it thoroughly and follow the given links to websites containing further infos. Read these, too. :D
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